Poll meta-analyses in NZ
As we point out from time to time, single polls aren’t very accurate and you need sensible averaging.
There are at least three sets of averages for NZ:
1. Peter Green’s analyses, which get published at DimPost (larger parties, smaller parties). The full code is here.
2. Pundit’s poll of polls. They have a reasonably detailed description of their approach and it follows what Nate Silver did for the US elections.
3. Curiablog’s time and size weighted average. Methodology described here
The implementors of these cover a reasonable spectrum of NZ political affiliation. The results agree fairly closely except for one issue: Peter Green adds a correction to make the predictions go through the 2011 election results, which no-one else does.
According to Gavin White, there is a historical tendency for National to do a bit worse and NZ First to do a bit better in the election than in the polls, so you’d want to correct for this, but you could also argue that the effect was stronger than usual at the last election so this might overcorrect.
In addition to any actual changes in preferences over the next couple of weeks, there are three polling issues we don’t have a good handle on:
- Internet Mana is new, and you could make a plausible case that their supporters might be harder for the pollers to get a good grip on (note: age and ethnicity aren’t enough here, the pollers do take account of those).
- There seems to have been a big increase in ‘undecided‘ responders to the polls, apparently from former Labour voters. To the extent that this is new, no-one really knows what they will do on the day.
- Polling for electorates is harder, especially when strategic voting is important, as in Epsom.
[Update: thanks to Bevan Weir in comments, there’s also a Radio NZ average. It’s a simple unweighted average with no smoothing, which isn’t ideal for estimation but has the virtue of simplicity]
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Wikipedia also does poll meta analysis using a GAM smoother (with polling company as a random effect):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_New_Zealand_general_election,_2014
10 years ago
I’d argue that if you want a GAM-based smoother you’d be better off using Peter Green’s one — for a start, the code is available.
10 years ago
Well the wiki R code is here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NZ_opinion_polls_2011-2014-majorparties.png
But I do like the correction applied to Peter’s analyses.
10 years ago
Peter Green’s was I think borne from dissatisfaction with the wikipedia code, which used loess (span = 0.5) at the last election, and there was quite a bit of argument over what argument should be supplied to the loess (depending on whether changing it supported what a person was hoping was happening with the polls).
Also, shameless plug for my own thoughts on polling, poll averaging, and effects by polling company:
http://distractedscientist.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/thoughts-on-poll-bias/
10 years ago
And just adding my own shameless plug into the mix: http://grumpollie.wordpress.com/2014/09/06/what-are-polls-of-polls-telling-us/
Also, another poll-of-polls can be found at: http://jononatusch.wordpress.com/poll-of-polls/
10 years ago
The initial request from Danyl was for something like the Wikipedia graph, but with the ability to choose the start and end dates. But when you plot those points you feel compelled to put a line through them, and when you try to do that you realise it’s not gonna work without accounting for house effects.
10 years ago
It’s been a while since I looked at the Wikipedia code — it now uses almost the same model as I do (with a random rather than fixed effect for the house effect). The main difference is the effect level used for the plotted curve — Wiki’s predictions are conditional on a zero house effect, mine is conditional on an election.
10 years ago
RadioNZ also does a “poll of polls” with quite a different method of “averaging the last four polls”: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/election-2014/columns/253915/poll-of-polls-with-colin-james
10 years ago
David Heffernan: http://kiwipollguy.wordpress.com/
10 years ago